OK… I’ve been into karate for many years now…. And I want to try something would well round my abilities…. Recently, I’ve seen many aikido…hapkido… demonstrations. But, I noticed that the grappling, throws and joint locking seems to be well staged situations… I wonder, what if and Aikidoka or Hapkido practitioner meet head on with a karateka who’s attacks are based on fast strong attack with fast retrieval. It would then become difficult to grab, throw or even get close to perform any techniques. Although in Karate, joint locking, grappling and throws are taught also, but they are not used in any type of situation when against another martial artist. The most common techniques that are used are take downs and sweeps. Any sort of joint manipulation would be performed after. So……. I’m curious, what would Aikidokas or Hapkido practitioners do when facing fast attacking martial artists with clean hits and quick retrievals?
HOW CAN YOU PERFORM GRAPPLING OR JOINT LOCKS IF YOU CAN’T GRAB THEIR ARMS LEGS OR EVEN GET CLOSE?
!! Taking hits first then grab does not count, it’s too risky…. !!
Okay i know there is a lot of controversy in this subject…most people say aikido doesnt work in a real fight.
is this true? please respond ONLY if you have ever actually used what you have learned
itd be nice if you send me a link to a real fight where aikido is used(not demonstrations)
asking because im thinking about learning aikido
Aikido does not really have any striking because that would cause injury. How does, in a real life situation, throwing your opponent on the cold hard cement protect from injury? One can break gis back, not to mention his head. That is why in every demonstration theuse some kind of pillows to throw ppl on.
Or is the “protecting your opponent from injury” concept more general? Like, in Aikido, you simply do not SEEK to injure your opponent but you might in the process?
Cause really, getting thrown/pinned down on the ground can actually kill.
My kyokushin karate school has closed down, and the only other school available is not my kind of dojo. so i was thinking of trying something else. I have aikido, judo or kendo also around town. So i was thinking of aikido, but how effective in real life is it? The demonstrations you see look like crap, people throwing themselves about like idiots, but that doesnt mean the style itself is worthless. Kyokushin karate demonstrations also look terrible in my opinion, and I love that style.
Also the only aikido ive seen in real life was in one fight, where a black belt karate guy (from the other karate school) destroyed a black belt aikido guy in a street fight. I knew both people, and the aikido guy had only just receieved his black belt, but they were both the same height. Different weight ofcourse, the karate guy was heavy with muscle and the aikido guy was wirey and fast. But the fight only lasted one strike. Is this typical of aikido? effective against normal people, but useless against anyone trained? (thats also the reason i dont want to join the other karate dojo, what kind of dojo produces black belts who start fights?)
Any info is much appreciated!
What is it with fuckwitt idiots telling me I cant judge a martial art by one fight, and all this “styles cant fight, people do” bullshit? Did those idiots even read my question? lol dipshits. I just stated what my experience with aikaido was, I didnt claim to have indepth knowledge cleamed from watching a 3 second fight! I was just stating what i saw dipshits!
There’s this documentary that I saw a few years ago that I want to watch again but I can’t remember its name. I saw it on National Geographic or Discovery Channel (or some channel like that, but I think it was one of those two) and it’s about martial arts and weapons used in martial arts. There were demonstrations of the many different martial arts themselves from all these REAL experts from all around the world and it included aikido, karate, tae kwon do, and some other cool martial arts. Then they moved on to real demonstrations on the different kinds of weapons that could be used like the katana, staff, nun-chucks, etc. and they were demonstrated by the same martial arts masters and it was really cool. The documentary even had computer simulated effects on how much damage these different weapons could inflict. Anybody out there who knows what it’s called?
*NOT A TV SHOW OR SERIES like deadliest warrior! It had real people, real demonstrations against dummies or sandbags. Jeez, it’s a documentary. It’s supposedly educational and REAL! It’s not really for entertainment…
I often hear that in aikido, you spend the first several months learning “how to fall.” You practice falling over and over again, in different ways in feigned response to different types of throws. Doesn’t all this falling just train you to fall down as soon as someone touches you? Is that why all aikido demonstrations are so obviously fake? People have unwittingly trained their bodies to fall at the slightest touch!
By contrast, wrestlers don’t waste time practicing how to fall. They learn to fight the takedown with everything they have! They do get taken down, and sometimes even slammed, but amazingly they are seldom injured by falling.
I just read another post in which someone asked if aikido would be effective in MMA and a lot of the responders basically said that the MMA rules don’t allow aikido moves – the insinuation then being that aikido guys would “own” MMA fight IF they were allowed to apply their aikido techniques. No disrespect to aikido guys…I’m not one of those guys who bashes other styles…just because it’s not my own; but I have to say that in my experience I’ve yet to see any real, practical and effective demonstration of aikido as a valid form of self-defense. Every class, demonstration and video I have ever seen has involved “willing” opponents tumbling and falling down in the direction that he’s supposed to. I suppose that in some instances I could see that if the “attacker” did not tumble, that his wrist would be broken; but I still find it very hard to see a lot of these re-direction and throwing techniques working in a real self-defense situation.
Can anyone provide clear examples of how aikido would work in a real self-defense situation?
FF asked:
If the world were in slow-motion and attacks involved punches that stay still in mid-air, aikido demonstration would be great. But so far I can’t find anything unchoreographed. Are there any?
(I know, they’re for demonstration only. But without real sparring how are you meant to develop what works in real life or not?)
I have always loved the way that sword fighting looks. Whether it be in the movies, western fencing, or kendo demonstrations, I have loved the idea of it since i was very little.
I have been thinking of taking martial arts classes for a while and I just remembered kendo. It looks very difficult and Im not sure if it’s something that would be right for me. Im a 15 year old girl.
Is there anyone out there that takes kendo? Do you enjoy it? Have you ever done any other martial arts? I was also thinking of taking aikido or taekwondo, although I know that those are much more defensive.
I also want something that would give me a decent workout and I’m worried that aikido wouldn’t do this for me.
Thank you for your help
Ive looked for videos but all ive found was demonstrations. I haven’t found an actual video of aikido vs bjj I know they both have their ups and downs but was just wondering who would win in that fight. They say no matter what fight it is you always end up on the ground, would that mean bjj would win easily?









